CB650SC/Specifications: Difference between revisions
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Revision as of 19:33, 12 May 2025
Type | Standard |
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Frame | RC13 (shared with CBX650E) |
Displacement | 655 cc |
Power | 72 bhp @ 9500 rpm |
Dry Weight | 197.0 kg (434.4 lbs) |
Top Speed | 233.4 km/h (145.0 mph) |
1/4 Mile | 12.13 s @ 174.50 km/h (108.43 mph) |
Wheelbase | 1,461 mm (57.5 in) |
Seat Height | 790 mm (31.1 in) |
Common Threads and Sizes
Item | Size | # needed | Note |
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Engine Oil Drain (sump) bolt | M12x1.5mm | 1 | |
Short hydralic banjo bolt | M10x1.25mm | 6 | Brakes and clutch |
Double hydralic banjo bolt | M10x1.25mm | 1 | Brakes |
Engine
Oil
Weight | Grade | w/ filter | w/o filter |
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SAE 10W40 | API SE-SF | 2.5L | 2.2L |
Ignition System
Timing
The engine speed is sampled directly from the crankshaft by two pickup coils placed at Cyls. No. 1&3 TDC and Cyls. No. 2&4 TDC. The two "pickups" are VR(Variable Reluctance) type, and together are referred to as the "Pulse Generator" in Honda literature of vintage. Each pickup is a coil of wire, wrapped around a steel core. One end of the steel core is exposed to the outside of the rubber moulded casing of the pickup, toward a sheet of steel attached to the crankshaft. The other side of the steel core is a magnet with the north pole pressed against the steel core and the south pole facing away from the entire assembly. Each pickup has a coil of wire with a resistance of 330ohm +/-10%.
As the crankshaft turns the stamped steel bolted to it approaches, aligns with, then passes the steel core of each pickup. This induces reluctance, and a voltage dip and spike into the coil. At low RPM the crankshaft position is detected at a low frequency AND low voltage. The frequency is of course directly correlated to the engine speed, velocity, or RPM. The voltage is proportional, starting as low as tens of Volts up to hundreds of Volts at high engine RPM.
From what I have read, using two sensors is very important to preventing the engine from running in reverse, as the controller can detect which pickup is triggered first.
Control
The Ignition Controller is a TCI(Transistor Controlled Ignition) type. It is referred to as the IC(Ignitor Controller) in Nippondenso and Honda vintage.
- Condition VR signal input from the Pulse Generator
- Calculate Engine velocity and position
- Calculate ignition advance (see Advance table) from velocity
- Calculate ignition offset from position and ignition advance
- Trigger appropriate coil's charge duration (dwell?) and ignition event
RPM | Degrees Advance |
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At idle min-1 | 10 BTDC |
Full advance/min-1 | 32 BTDC/3000 |
Pulse gen/pickup coils plug | Ign. Coils Plug | |||||||
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3 | 2 | 1 | 2 | 1 | ||||
3-2 Pickup -> | NP | Y | W | + | B/W | L | 4-1 Ignition coil | 12v signal |
4-1 Pickup -> | NP | L | W | - | Dg | Y | 3-2 Ignition coil | |
6 | 5 | 4 | 4 | 3 | Tees off to tachometer signal |
Ignition
- Ignition coil primary resistance: 2.8 ohms
- Ignition coil secondary resistance: 13.6-15.5 ohms
- " with spark plug cap: 21-28k ohms
- Spark plug resistance: ohms
- Spark plug gap: 0.8-0.9mm (0.031-0.035in)
Carbs
Keihin VE54A
Item | Spec | Note |
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Venturi | 29.2mm (1.15in) | |
Type | VE | |
Style | CV | (constant velocity) |
Float | 18.5mm +/-1mm (0.61in +/-0.04in) | Non-adjustable |
Idle | 1,100RPM +/-100RPM | |
Throttle grip free-play | 2-6mm (0.08-0.24in) | |
Fast Idle | 3,000RPM +/-500RPM | choke on |
Needle marking | "79K" | |
Choke type | By-starter |
O-rings
Desc. | Part Number | I.D. | Thickness | Number |
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Small, (fuel tubes) | 6mm | 1.8mm | 4x | |
Large, (fuel tee) | 7mm | 2mm | 2x | |
Thin, (breather tube tees) | 4x | |||
Cly. head to boot couplings | 91306-ME5-003 -> 91306-HA0-003 |
33.7mm | 2.6mm | 8x |
Carb Parts
- Keyster kit (N.A.): K-893HK (http://www.siriusconinc.com/products/detail/2685)
- Keyster kit (E.U.): KH-1195N (https://www.3pracing.com/en/keyster-carburetor-rebuild-kit-kh-1195n-for-honda-cbx-650-1983-1985.html)
Part/Jet | Size | OEM P/N | Keyster P/N | Series | Length | Diameter (thread) | Diameter (head) |
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Main | #115 | 99101-393-1150 -> 99101-GHB-1150 -> 99101-MAZ-1150 |
KHM-110115 | 99101-393 or KR28 | 8mm | 4.9mm | 6mm |
Slow | #35 | 99103-MA4-0350 -> 99103-GY6-0350 |
KHS-29C035 | 5.9mm | 4.9mm | ||
Needle Holder | 16165-449-771 | ||||||
Needle Set (Canada) |
79K | 16012-ME5-621 -> 16012-ME5-671 |
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Needle Set (Europe) |
79P (#D476) | 16012-ME5-611 | KHD-0476Z | ||||
Needle Set (CB700SC/700S) |
2SK | ||||||
Idle Screw Set | 16016-ME5-671 -> 16016-KR3-671 -> 16016-MY6-770 |
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Idle Screw Set (Europe) |
16016-MA6-003 | KHSS-138 | |||||
Float valve | 16165-413-751 | KVN-16N00 | |||||
Needle Shims | ID: 3.2mm | OD: 7mm | thickness: 0.5mm |
Stage | Main | Slow | Needle shims 0.5mm (per each carb) | Note |
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0 (OEM) | #115 | #35 | 0 | Stock |
1 | #118 | #35 | 1 | stock engine and with stock air intake and stock exhaust system |
2 | #120 | #38 | 1 | stock or lightly modified engine with improved air intake using stock air intake box and baffled aftermarket exhaust or lightly modified exhaust |
3 | #125 | #38 | 2 | stock or lightly modified engines with individual air intakes and baffled aftermarket exhaust system |
4 | #125 | #40 | 2 | modified engines with individual air intakes and non-baffled exhaust system (racing use only) |
5 | #130 | #40 | 2 | |
Pro | #118, #120, #122, #125 and #128 | #38, #40 | 2 | experimenting with different engine, air intake and exhaust system |
Exhaust
Sealing
- Graphite coupler seal x1 - 18392-MG7-750 - 42.8 x 48.6 x 20mm
- Copper crush rings x4 - - 43.2 x 34.8 x 4.2mm
Wheels
Construction: Cast Alloy
Tires
Position | Size |
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Front | 100/90-19 (OEM: 3.50-19) |
Rear | 130/90-16 |
Brakes
Position | Type | Number | Size |
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Front | Disc | x2 | |
Rear | Drum | x1 |
Suspension
Forks (Front)
- Showa
- Diameter: 39mm
- Type: leading-axle
- Adjust: air-adjustable
- Bushings: dual Syntallic
- Anti-dive: TRAC
Shocks (Rear)
- VHD
- Type: rebound damping
- Adjustable: four-way
- ↑ 1985 Honda CB 650 SC Specs on Ultimate Specs https://www.ultimatespecs.com/motorcycles-specs/honda/honda-cb-650-sc-1985